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Posted: Saturday, March 09, 2019 - 02:19 AM UTC

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Michael,
Looking fantastic with the Gravity Ferrari Red Rosso Corsa Paint. Gravity has at last count 5 different shades of Ferrari Red paint. I ended up using this exact color from them for my Ferrari 330 P4.
Their paints are just the best of the best.

Joel


I agree with you Joel. I wonder what would happen if they expanded beyond the auto world?

Cheers
Michael


Michael,
Interesting thought for sure.

CMW paints here in the good old USA who specializes in US colors for street cars and Nascar has done exactly that. They've expanded into the military market.

The issue I see is that you have to be in 100% or don't bother, as not having enough colors just forces the buyer to go some place else.

Joel
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 11:14 PM UTC
Looking fabulous in red, Michael!

Is it just me, or is it mat? Will you be applying a gloss coat later?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - 07:41 PM UTC

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Looking fabulous in red, Michael!

Is it just me, or is it mat? Will you be applying a gloss coat later?


Hi Russ, yes it is matt. Thats the way the Gravity paints work. 2k gloss coat to follow once I have chromed the window frames which is proving more tricky than I had hoped.

Cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC
Hi Michael

I'll be keen to see how you tackle the chrome, because I need to do it all on my MGB. I have a couple of alternative approaches in mind, so it'll be great to see how others do it.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 10:10 PM UTC

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Hi Michael

I'll be keen to see how you tackle the chrome, because I need to do it all on my MGB. I have a couple of alternative approaches in mind, so it'll be great to see how others do it.

All the best

Rowan


Hi Rowan,
Good timing with the question. See below.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 10:17 PM UTC
OK, I chromed the window frames. I use the Molotow Chrome Pump pen with a 1mm tip, which was the smallest I saw. I had originally hoped I could do this without masking but the flow was at times too much and my hand not steady enough so I had to revert to masking. At least since I wasn't airbrushing it was just necessary to mask around the frames.



The chrome looks better with the naked eye and has a real shine to it so I think it is definitely a viable alternative to painting. One thing I hadn't noticed until I ran the tip over the window frames to chrome them was how rough they were so I need to go back and smooth those out.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 12:31 AM UTC
The chrome looks great Michael. As you said, a couple of rough spots missed in preparation stage, but the finish itself is really nice. I must get hold of a couple of the Molotow pens, as you know most of my builds are chrome monsters!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 01:51 AM UTC
Looking good, Michael!
Keep us updated about the Molotow behavior in the first days over application and how it takes the clear coat - if not asking to much. However, I have two pens in my incoming shipment (1 and 2mm tips) and I am eager to try them myself.

Cheers!
Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 04:50 AM UTC
Michael,
I'm more then impressed with the chrome finish. Like Gabriel, I'm curious to know how the Molotow ink holds up when glossed. I can already see other uses for the 1mm pen like lens Bezels and switches to name a few.

Joel
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 05:53 AM UTC
Amazing chrome work. Looks as if Molotow chrome pens are a must have.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 11:29 AM UTC
Michael

amazing work!

You didn't need the foil method after all that fine work with the chrome pen
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:36 PM UTC

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The chrome looks great Michael. As you said, a couple of rough spots missed in preparation stage, but the finish itself is really nice. I must get hold of a couple of the Molotow pens, as you know most of my builds are chrome monsters!

Cheers, D


Thanks Damian. So far it has worked on the window frames. I also tried it on the bumpers/fenders and the issue there is the chrome is not self leveling it is difficult to get a smooth finish. The chrome effect is still very good but just not smooth. I think more practice required.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:38 PM UTC

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Looking good, Michael!
Keep us updated about the Molotow behavior in the first days over application and how it takes the clear coat - if not asking to much. However, I have two pens in my incoming shipment (1 and 2mm tips) and I am eager to try them myself.

Cheers!
Gabriel


Hi Gabriel, 2K clear coat coming up shortly and fingers crossed. I don't want to go back and redo this. I also bought the 1 and 2 mm pens. I wonder if they do finer tips but I haven't seen them.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:40 PM UTC

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Michael,
I'm more then impressed with the chrome finish. Like Gabriel, I'm curious to know how the Molotow ink holds up when glossed. I can already see other uses for the 1mm pen like lens Bezels and switches to name a few.

Joel


Thanks Joel! I can tell you where the chrome pen is really effective is when removing chrome pieces from the sprue that you want to keep plated then the pen is excellent in filling in the sprue attachment point.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:40 PM UTC

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Amazing chrome work. Looks as if Molotow chrome pens are a must have.

Hi Jesper, I think they are definitely something to have in the toolkit.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:42 PM UTC

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Michael

amazing work!

You didn't need the foil method after all that fine work with the chrome pen


cheers Russ. I have never tried the foil method and it does sound fiddly. Maybe if you didn't want to mask it would be an option.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 06:53 PM UTC
I haven't done the clearcoat yet because I wanted to deal with some of the problem parts of this kit and coat them at the same time as the body. Mainly because I find the 2K time consuming, especially on clean up.

So you may remember the bumpers were not in a great state.


So I filled and sanded and after a couple of experiments (including the Molotow pen) ended up using Alclad Chrome for the job.



Second problem was with the exhaust tips

not only were they quite rough there were only three and I needed four
So 4 mm aluminium tubing was used

and I mocked up my own prototype on the left

I made four of those and chromed as per the bumpers

Next problem child and looking for ideas here is the glass. Both windows and front and rear screens have a flaw

The semi circle I had thought I could fix by having open side windows but that doesn't resolve the screens which has the mark down the middle.
Any ideas or do I just live with it?

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - 01:19 AM UTC
Michael,
Your chromed bumpers and homemade exhaust pipes came out great. The cast pipe is so pitted, I cant's see it being a viable option without a lot of work.

For the glass issue, I would go through the polishing process to remove as much of the scratch as you can, then a dip into Pledge. Hopefully that will help.

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - 11:09 AM UTC

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Michael,
Your chromed bumpers and homemade exhaust pipes came out great. The cast pipe is so pitted, I cant's see it being a viable option without a lot of work.

For the glass issue, I would go through the polishing process to remove as much of the scratch as you can, then a dip into Pledge. Hopefully that will help.

Joel


Thanks Joel,
Unfortunately it is not so much a scratch as a molding flaw i.e. it goes always through the plastic. I guess when they pumped the liquid into the molds there must a been a pause hence you get that semi circle below the attachment point. It's not that noticeable but annoying once you do.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2019 - 05:16 AM UTC

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Michael,
Your chromed bumpers and homemade exhaust pipes came out great. The cast pipe is so pitted, I cant's see it being a viable option without a lot of work.

For the glass issue, I would go through the polishing process to remove as much of the scratch as you can, then a dip into Pledge. Hopefully that will help.

Joel


Thanks Joel,
Unfortunately it is not so much a scratch as a molding flaw i.e. it goes always through the plastic. I guess when they pumped the liquid into the molds there must a been a pause hence you get that semi circle below the attachment point. It's not that noticeable but annoying once you do.

cheers
Michael


Michael,
Hopefully a quick bath in Pledge will do the trick.
Joel
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Posted: Saturday, April 06, 2019 - 07:56 PM UTC
Well this is finished but not that well. I didn't get the clear coat right, I think I am still too tentative in the "wet" coat concept. I toyed with the idea of starting again but couldn't face it. Then I had plenty of difficulty in getting the body mated to the chassis. Though I had dry fitted several times before painting that was also before most items were fitted, especially the glass. Since the chassis was solid steel, its the plastic that has to yield slightly to slide the chassis in. Also didn't help that the window doors were too big, or course finding out after installation. The dash was meant to attach to the windscreen according to the instructions but there was no way to do that. After several attempts of muttering and cursing, refitting parts it all got together I dropped it. With all the metal these cars weigh a bit. Resin clear cost is pretty robust but still some slight damage which was partially polished out.

Anyhow, here some pictures





One day I'll buy a real one...yeah right!

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 12:25 AM UTC
Michael, I think it looks really good. When you take a look back at the first post and what you started with, and the stumbling blocks along the path and challenges that the kit presented, you've done a mighty fine job.

What's next up on the bench?

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 02:53 AM UTC
Michael,
D hit it right on the head. You started with a really old, Tough kit, that even had a damaged body. Add to that it's a multi media kit which is all the more harder to construct as metal casting and injected molding Plastic has a tendency not to align as well as they did from the masters that the molds were made from.

You did a incredible job, and should be proud of the final results.

From your pics the paint and clearcoat looks pretty darn good.

Well done my friend, very well done.

Joel
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 12:38 PM UTC

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Michael, I think it looks really good. When you take a look back at the first post and what you started with, and the stumbling blocks along the path and challenges that the kit presented, you've done a mighty fine job.

What's next up on the bench?

Cheers, D


Thanks Damian. You know we always visualize what we think a kit should look like when its finished and end up being our own harshest critic when we don't achieve our own high ambition. More practice!
What's up next on the bench? Well I need to clear the bench of Big E which has taken a back seat, literally, to the Porsche and Ferrari, After that, something with a New Zealand flavor I think.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 12:49 PM UTC

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Michael,
D hit it right on the head. You started with a really old, Tough kit, that even had a damaged body. Add to that it's a multi media kit which is all the more harder to construct as metal casting and injected molding Plastic has a tendency not to align as well as they did from the masters that the molds were made from.

You did a incredible job, and should be proud of the final results.

From your pics the paint and clearcoat looks pretty darn good.

Well done my friend, very well done.

Joel


Cheers Joel, your words of support are much appreciated. You're right, the kit was a tough one, a mixture of sublime and ridiculous but it will help me appreciate what comes next down the automodeller assembly line.

thanks

Michael
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