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AussieReg
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 05:14 PM UTC
Hi everybody.

I would like to begin arranging a "library" of themes for future Group Builds here on Automodeler. It would be great to keep the current increase in activity and interest rolling, and I believe that in order to do that we should agree on themes of high interest. I don't want to overload us with Group Builds as it can result in a level of incomplete builds and frustration that is counter-productive. My thought is to have an annual "Garage Queens" Group Build running for the calendar year, and along side that one "Themed" Group Build, possibly also running for 12 months, or shorter if agreed. This will also give us all the opportunity to run our own builds, hopefully with personal Build Log threads.

Some ideas that I came up with initially:

The Blue Oval - anything Ford
Land of the Rising Sun - anything of Japanese manufacture
Big Rigs - Trucks rigid or articulated
The Early Years of Auto - anything manufactured prior to the start of WWII
Strip. Track and Trail - Drag, Race or Rally cars
When Two or Three will do - Bikes and Trikes
Ragtop Rules - Anything convertible or Soft Top

Always open to other suggestions so lets get some discussion going and see what we can agree on as the next Group Build once the Porsche is completed.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 05:40 PM UTC
You don't have Bowtie Build listed
Seriously, outside of nameplate builds, you've got a fairly comprehensive list there.

And yes only a few builds per year helps. I think I have at least one build 'due' every month until September. That may be more than I can chew.
betheyn
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 10:35 PM UTC
You have it pretty well covered, but a couple I can think of off the top of my head would be,
A bit of muscle - American muscle cars.
The Big Three -
The United States' Big Three are General Motors, Ford, and Fiat Chrysler (FCA US).
Germany's Big Three are Volkswagen AG, Mercedes-Benz (Daimler AG) and BMW.
Japan's Big Three are Toyota, Nissan, and Honda.
France's Big Three are Renault, Peugeot and CitroŽn, although both Peugeot and CitroŽn are a part of the PSA Group.
Italy's Big Three are Alfa Romeo, Ferrari and Fiat.
This would include cars from the 1950s; where the big chrome monsters lurked.
(Big three info from Wiki)
Also you could run two campaigns per year, with a 6 month run time alongside the year long hanger queen build.
Andy
AussieReg
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 12:01 AM UTC

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You don't have Bowtie Build listed



I was tempted Mark, but with all of the Chevy builds I have lined up, I didn't want to overload the system and cause a meltdown.


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Also you could run two campaigns per year, with a 6 month run time alongside the year long hanger queen build.


That is what I would like to aim for Andy, I just want to confirm with the folks here whether 6 months for a build is achievable. A lot of the builders here have Campaign commitments on the other pages.

"A bit of muscle" and "The Big Three" work very well as themes, added to the list and thanks for your input. BTW, when are we going to see you putting your skills to good use here?

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 12:08 AM UTC
Think you got it covered D, could I also suggest:
Heart of the beast - animal manufacturers, any manufacturer with an animal as a badge (Jaguar, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Holden, Dodge, Alfa Romeo, from the top of my head but sure to be more)
betheyn
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 09:48 AM UTC

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BTW, when are we going to see you putting your skills to good use here?


Soon, just waiting for an easier kit then I have in the stash to arrive. Don't think I'm quite ready to deal with the Simil R Ford Focus RS WRC 2010 car or the Toyota GT-One just yet.
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 11:39 AM UTC
Hi!

D., all the themes are acceptable for me, including the ones suggested by the others.
Garage Queens it's going to be always a problem for me, because I'm not letting loose ends all that often.

The suggested program is good I think, with two parallel asynchronous GBs.

In addition to the GBs based on manufacturer or country of origin, I will like to suggest other two, based on finish:
White Challenge - any vehicle painted white (or derivatives) - to challenge the skill of the modeler with most difficult finish;
Bad Taste - for ugly custom build or finished in mismatching color cars.

Haha! That will make some ten campaigns - we have 10 years work ahead

Gabriel
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 03:27 PM UTC
Great feedback everybody, plenty to think about for all of us now.

Luciano, yes, I like that theme. Animal logos would be cool, even down to the SsangYong Musso (Rhino), but I'm not sure if there's been a kit of a few of the options out there.

Gabriel, I think that You and Joel might be the only 2 among us who don't really qualify for the Garage Queens theme. I really like your White Challenge idea, I struggle with that every time. The Bad Taste theme would definitely get us all thinking "out of the square" for a scheme for our builds.

I have come up with a couple more during my work wanderings today:

Chopped and Changed - Modified kits such as my current Nomad/El Camino conversion or Jesper's current Nomad build where he had to rebuild the rear end to take the wider wheels and lower the stance. Also would include Kitbash builds such as Gavin's current SambaStein, or just plain scratchbuilding insanity (looking at you Nick).

Dirty, Dusty and Rusty - Dirty, badly weathered or fully rusted out "barn find" cars, stretch our skills beyond the shiny showroom.

Lets start with that list and decide on something to prepare for when the Porsche Group Build comes to a conclusion.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 06:41 PM UTC
Lots of great campaign ideas. I was just about to suggest a daily rusty dirty beater campaign, but you beat me to it Damian Plenty to chose from now. Looking forward to seeing what the first campaign will be.
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 12:49 PM UTC
I have been thinking about how to encourage more "traffic" here on AutoModeler as we really only have a handful of active builders, and aside the news and reviews, and from each of us creating and regularly updating individual build logs for our current works, really the only way is to actively promote and participate in our Group Builds.

To that end, I am thinking that we should start a new themed Group Build on July 1, running for 6 months, but we need to choose a theme that will encourage as many participants as possible so I need some feedback from the crowd.

Below is a summary of the themes that have been put forward, in no particular order, so please let me know your thoughts on where we start

1. Chopped and Changed - Modified kits such as my current Nomad/El Camino conversion or Jesper's current Nomad build where he had to rebuild the rear end to take the wider wheels and lower the stance. Also would include Kitbash builds such as Gavin's current SambaStein, or just plain scratchbuilding insanity (looking at you Nick).

2. Dirty, Dusty and Rusty - Dirty, badly weathered or fully rusted out "barn find" cars, stretch our skills beyond the shiny showroom.

3. White Challenge - any vehicle painted white (or derivatives) - to challenge the skill of the modeler with most difficult finish.

4. Bad Taste - for ugly custom build or finished in mismatching color cars.

5. Heart of the beast - animal manufacturers, any manufacturer with an animal as a badge (Jaguar, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Holden, Dodge, Alfa Romeo, etc)

6. A bit of muscle - American muscle cars.

7. The Big Three - Country of Origin (as listed by Andy)

8. The Blue Oval - anything Ford

9. Land of the Rising Sun - anything of Japanese manufacture

10. Big Rigs - Trucks rigid or articulated

11. The Early Years of Auto - anything manufactured prior to the start of WWII

12. Strip, Track and Trail - Drag, Race or Rally cars

13. When Two or Three will do - Bikes and Trikes

14. Ragtop Rules - Anything convertible or Soft Top

I'm looking forward to your ideas and feedback on this. Alternatively I could put the numbers in a hat and draw at random

Cheers, D
Szmann
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 01:48 PM UTC
Hi, D.!

I agree with the principles of sustaining GB's and I am in.
July 1st should be OK for me - I will be still in Europe, but packing my stuff.

Personal Observations:
I cannot participate to "Chopped... " campaign, because I have a long list of commissioned stock builds ahead of me.
The "Big Rig" campaign is interesting, but we just finished one and had all of us exhausted with frustrating crappy MPC and AMT kits - perhaps is too soon to start another one.

Other than that, I'll be head on in any campaign of the ones proposed.

P.S. There is random.org that can randomly make a pick in case is difficult for us to establish one.

Cheers!
Gabriel
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 05:44 PM UTC
Well, I'm stocked to handle Blue Oval (about 4 Mustangs, a Model A, an F-100 and a 49 Tudor), Muscle (4 mustangs, bits of 2 Camaros, Firebird, Challenger and a Hemi Cuda), and Strip & Track (3 NASCARS, a Formula 1, Corvette Indy Car, Corvette Roadster and a dragster). Oh look there's even a Ferrari.

So one vote for Blue Oval!
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 06:50 PM UTC
D, good ideas all, however for me I'd have nothing for the Chopped and Changed build unless the conversion set I just got for the Opel Manta rally car counts but all it is, is a change of wheels, headlights and decals. The Bad taste I'd most likely have to go and buy something for and the same for the pre WWII but that's not a hardship as I've already been looking for a 1920's or 30's car (Alfa Romeo).

All the rest I have something in the stash that will work and looking forward to doing a white (Pearl) Lamborghini!
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 12:52 AM UTC
While I am not up to the skills of all of you, I could be in for Blue Oval, Ragtop, Dirty, or Street & Strip.
AussieReg
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 01:31 AM UTC
I have a couple of kits that fit the Blue Oval theme that I would like to build as well, so it seems that we are leaning in that direction at this point.

Next question, does anybody want to put their hand up to lead the Group Build? I am always happy to do it but anybody with a particular fondness for the Blue Oval marque might like to take the reins if that is the concensus.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 01:33 AM UTC

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While I am not up to the skills of all of you, I could be in for Blue Oval, Ragtop, Dirty, or Street & Strip.



David, thanks for checking in here. It's not about the skills you have now, it's about enjoying the hobby and the camaraderie, and improving your skills as you go.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 01:50 AM UTC

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While I am not up to the skills of all of you, I could be in for Blue Oval, Ragtop, Dirty, or Street & Strip.



David, thanks for checking in here. It's not about the skills you have now, it's about enjoying the hobby and the camaraderie, and improving your skills as you go.

Cheers, D



Wise and true
Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 05:02 AM UTC

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While I am not up to the skills of all of you, I could be in for Blue Oval, Ragtop, Dirty, or Street & Strip.



David, thanks for checking in here. It's not about the skills you have now, it's about enjoying the hobby and the camaraderie, and improving your skills as you go.

Cheers, D



Wise and true
Gabriel



True it is.

I've been at it for nearly 40 years now. Eyesight and hand steadiness are the failing factors. But, I'll never stop trying.