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68 Firebird & 70 Hemi Cuda Dual Build
Littorio
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 07:53 AM UTC
Ok this is my first car build for a long long time not including a false start on a Ferrari last year so I thought Iíd have a go at something not too difficult out of the box before I tackle something more complex. Iím not a fast builder and will probably miss updates on the blog but here goes.

So here is the box and the body which has received basic clean up


Now I have a question for our American friends or those that know, does anyone have suggested sources for the Pontiac engine metallic blue? Prefer Mr Color or Hobby Color. Second question is what colours was the interior available in?

I found a colour chart for the car body not sure what colour to go with yet, although Iím thinking either white or Nordic blue.

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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 10:05 AM UTC
Definitely gonna be keeping an eye on this thread!!

I try to use an app called Hobby Color Converter. It shows comparable colors from different manufactures.
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 10:11 AM UTC
If you are able to search U.S. vintage auto listings for '68's, hopefully the seller will indicate the interior color. That is one way to get an answer if noone else responds. Unfortunately I can't help more because air-cooled VWs and buses especially are my auto vice. I honestly don't know if I've even sat in a Firebird in the past 50 years.
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 10:20 AM UTC
Hi Luciano.

Great to see you starting a build here mate, especially a classic muscle car! I look forward to following your build progress.

I believe that Model Master (Testors) have a Pontiac Engine Blue in their range if you have access to this range.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 11:28 AM UTC
FWIW, I found this for interior color codes.
1968 Firebird 400 codes
Don't have anything on what the colors look like.
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 01:02 PM UTC
Do they sell Dupli-Color over there? They have just about any color you need.

I should add that the older stuff didn't destroy plastic but haven't tried any of the newer formulations.
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 01:53 PM UTC
Luciano, glad to see you're starting a build.

I take my references on classic cars from YT, looking for unrestored examples or factory specs restored.

I won't recommend a light color for your first build in a while; from the two colors chosen by you, I would take Nordic blue any time, but from the whole list the burgundy black would be the one!

I will follow your posts.

Gabriel
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 06:53 PM UTC
Excellent choice of subject Luciano.

Damian is right, Testors do make a Pontiac engine blue. Testors 2728.
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 10:06 PM UTC
Watching with interest Luciano

I have the Revell 1978 Trans Am halfway built so will be interested to see how you tackle this one
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:04 AM UTC
Luciano,
Welcome to our little corner of the KitMaker Network. I'll be following your build for sure.

There is a custom car paint color company here in the states that specializes in USA cars. MCW: Model Car World. All of his paints are lacquer based and formulated from the manufactures specs using the actual paint for accuracy from the paint manufacture. They're pre-thinned and ready to be airbrushed. I've used them, and they're Excellent.

Here's their Link:

http://www.mcwautomotivefinishes.com/paint/catalog.html

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 06:13 AM UTC
Thanks Joel, I'd found those folks on a previous search and forgot about them. Appreciate the reminder.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 08:38 AM UTC
Thanks all for the encouragement and tips on paint, unfortunately the importer for Testors paints only imports military colours

I have found that Zero paints do Chrysler engine blue so Iíll get that, itís that or Ford engine blue. After Gabrielís suggestion I watched a few YouTube videos today and really like the Firebird in dark grey which I think is the Nightshade green colour however Zero donít do this and Dupli-Color is only available from a specialist who doesnít do US colours. So Iíll mix my own using a dark metallic grey with a drop of green.

No photo, but Iíve been working on the body doing a bit more clean up and fitting the rear and applying filler here as there are a few gaps. Next task is to de-chrome the chrome sprues and clean up the filler.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 01:06 PM UTC

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Thanks all for the encouragement and tips on paint, unfortunately the importer for Testors paints only imports military colours

I have found that Zero paints do Chrysler engine blue so Iíll get that, itís that or Ford engine blue. After Gabrielís suggestion I watched a few YouTube videos today and really like the Firebird in dark grey which I think is the Nightshade green colour however Zero donít do this and Dupli-Color is only available from a specialist who doesnít do US colours. So Iíll mix my own using a dark metallic grey with a drop of green.

No photo, but Iíve been working on the body doing a bit more clean up and fitting the rear and applying filler here as there are a few gaps. Next task is to de-chrome the chrome sprues and clean up the filler.



Found this on eBay UK from Germany, just pick the color you need.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100ml-20-07-Testors-Model-Master-Kunstharz-Farben-Chrysler-Olds-GM-Ford/132826938348?hash=item1eed1a3bec:m:mL-iSchpHlV5aQrw83Sxx1g&redirect=mobile

Also found this:

https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/2728-Pontiac-Engine-Blue-Gloss.html
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 09:53 AM UTC
Patrick, thank you, just placed an order via the bay and added Chrysler and Chevy engine paints to the order while I was at it.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 01:32 PM UTC

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Patrick, thank you, just placed an order via the bay and added Chrysler and Chevy engine paints to the order while I was at it.



No problem mate and you better get them while you can.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 03:10 PM UTC

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Patrick, thank you, just placed an order via the bay and added Chrysler and Chevy engine paints to the order while I was at it.



No problem mate and you better get them while you can.



Yes, especially the Chevy one. The Chrysler will move slowly and mostly just rust away

Cheers, D
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC

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Patrick, thank you, just placed an order via the bay and added Chrysler and Chevy engine paints to the order while I was at it.



No problem mate and you better get them while you can.



Yes, especially the Chevy one. The Chrysler will move slowly and mostly just rust away

Cheers, D



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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - 10:31 PM UTC
Guyís loving the banter between the different US car giants even if for this British national itís all foreign I even had to look up Mopar !!

For me I like them all, if the shapes right then itís right. The only slight connection I have is my dad owned a Chrysler Hunter back in the late 70ís this was when Chrysler brought out Hillman and did a facelift on the Hillman Hunter, he had one of those as well before the Chrysler.

Any ways a small update, last couple of days before going to work on the night shift Iíve been filling and sanding the Firebird and its companion on the bench, the Hemiícuda.

Firebird being built stock while the ĎCuda will be custom. So this is now a dual build.


Rear valance and bumper fared in on the ĎCuda.


Front bumper and custom grill


Firebird rear valance gaps filled and cleaned up, got to work out how to square up that left rear light.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - 10:55 PM UTC
This is great, classic Bowtie vs Mopar Muscle Showdown!!!

Good luck with both builds Luciano, I will be following along closely.

On another note, when I was a teenager learning to drive, my mother had a Hillman Hunter and my father had 4 Pontiacs (in various states of restoration), so my lessons alternated between 4-cylinder manual shopping cart and 5-litre V8 2-speed auto ocean liner!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - 10:59 PM UTC

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Firebird rear valance gaps filled and cleaned up, got to work out how to square up that left rear light.



Is that a bit of flash or mis-moulded? If it is a moulding issue I would use something like a flat needle file and work away at it until its square. Use a black Sharpie to mark the desired line so you don't sand or file past it.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - 11:41 PM UTC

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Firebird rear valance gaps filled and cleaned up, got to work out how to square up that left rear light.



Is that a bit of flash or mis-moulded? If it is a moulding issue I would use something like a flat needle file and work away at it until its square. Use a black Sharpie to mark the desired line so you don't sand or file past it.

Cheers, D



Itís miss-mould unfortunately the photo doesnít show how small this is, I canít get a needle file in the opening I may have to get a piece of emery cloth or fine sanding paper and cut it down.

Although the ĎCuda is shown with the custom bonnet err.. sorry Hood I still think I may go with the ĎShakerí hood whatís everyone thoughts custom or shaker?

Paint should be arriving today so I can get going on the engines and chassisís.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 - 12:41 AM UTC
It's a "bonnet" here as well, and a "boot" at the back end. I have so much trouble remembering to type "Hood" and "Trunk"

I prefer the shaker to the twin scoop.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 - 07:15 AM UTC
Luciano,
Wow!! Another multi car build. I'm truly humbled at this point.

While I was never a huge fan of American Iron, I was a big fan of the Pony cars, that all ran in the Trans Am. My personal ride was a 1970 302 Ford Mustang with just enough suspension and engine work to make a difference on the street.

Nice work on flaring in the rear bumper and that front grill.

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 - 10:55 AM UTC
Luciano, you're off to a good start!

I had the same problem with the lights on my Superbird I have finished it a while ago and I corrected them with the modelling blade, slicing almost parallel with the edge. It worked good.

Gabriel
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 - 09:01 PM UTC

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Luciano,
Wow!! Another multi car build. I'm truly humbled at this point.

While I was never a huge fan of American Iron, I was a big fan of the Pony cars, that all ran in the Trans Am. My personal ride was a 1970 302 Ford Mustang with just enough suspension and engine work to make a difference on the street.

Nice work on flaring in the rear bumper and that front grill.

Joel



Joel donít worry, although not in the stash just yet I do have a couple of Mustangs on my wish list; 69 Mach 1, 68 GT and a 70 Boss 429.

Gabriel,
Iíll give that a try first and see if I can make it just big enough for a needle file.