login   |    register
Cars
Discuss all types of automotive modeling here.
'57 Ford Del Rio Ranch Wagon - Blue Oval
Hwa-Rang
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: June 29, 2004
KitMaker: 6,681 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,110 posts
Posted: Friday, May 01, 2020 - 09:32 PM UTC
Excellent Work Rowan. Great to see some weathering, a process not seen that often, on the shiny side.
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Friday, May 01, 2020 - 07:12 AM UTC
Cheers Damian

It's proving a thoroughly enjoyable build - and the key thing for me is that I'm learning new stuff at every step of the way, because it offers subtly different challenges to my usual diet of aircraft modelling. It's really refreshing to work on something outside my comfort zone.

I don't have any fresh pics to show, but I've attached the chassis to the body pan, so it really is time to start playing about with the interior. Again, it's got me thinking "outside the box" (for me at least) as to how I'll give a bit of character to that "luxury" vinyl upholstery.

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 11:44 AM UTC

Quoted Text

In case anyone is inspired to go overboard adding more detail (I'm sure there's loads I've missed), do be warned that a lot will be hidden as soon as you add the firewall and air cleaner. Plus, of course, the body shell will also get in the way a bit:



But you've had fun doing it, and there's always this photographic evidence!

Very nice neat work Rowan, looking great!

Cheers, D
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 03:33 AM UTC
Hi again

@ Damian - sorry, I didn't spot your question about the "caps" on the ignition cables. I just used drops of Gator's glue. It wouldn't win any prizes, but it's very quick and looks reasonable to me.

Anyway, I've had another tinker today and got the engine pretty much "done" (I need to tie the weathering together in a few places and dull down the Ford logos):




In case anyone is inspired to go overboard adding more detail (I'm sure there's loads I've missed), do be warned that a lot will be hidden as soon as you add the firewall and air cleaner. Plus, of course, the body shell will also get in the way a bit:



I'm looking forward to getting to the interior and starting to play with Bare-Metal foil.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 06:43 AM UTC
Hi Jesper and Damian

Thanks for tuning in and the kind comments.

You can apply Goldfinger (or Rub 'n Buff) with anything you like, from a soft cloth or Q-Tip, down to a brush, depending on the area you're trying to cover and the detail required. I used a brush.

It's well worth having a tube handy, but there are definitely pros and cons to using it. I went for it because I'm notoriously bad at brush-painting metallic paints evenly (I always use an airbrush). If you can do that - stick with what you're doing!

Goldfinger covers and polishes evenly and brilliantly - but it's also easily damaged. I've got the worst possible scenario here, applying it over half-cured oil paint weathering; look at it too hard at the moment and it needs a repair.

So, I'm not out of the woods - but I thing the result should look reasonable.

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Friday, April 24, 2020 - 11:03 AM UTC
Looking good Rowan, very nice finish already on the tranny! How do you apply the Goldfinger? Is it a Q-tip deal or brush?

Cheers, D
Hwa-Rang
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: June 29, 2004
KitMaker: 6,681 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,110 posts
Posted: Friday, April 24, 2020 - 06:14 AM UTC
Super job, on the engine Rowan. A bit of wiring makes a big difference.
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 10:39 PM UTC
Hi again

Well, I threw caution to the wind and went straight for it without bothering to really test the idea that had occurred to me while I was asleep... and I think it's actually going to work...



I've used Goldfinger - which is basically the same sort of stuff as Rub 'n Buff. This is immediately after the first application. Once it's had a chance to dry thoroughly, I'll polish it.

After a coat of Klear and weathering with oils, I think it'll look pretty much like I'd spray-painted the finish in the first place.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 09:44 PM UTC
Hi Damian

When I first saw the gold transmissions and gearboxes I assumed it was either artistic licence, or extra bling on restored engines. But I found one reference to Mercury painting their whole engines gold at some stage in the 50s.

I will be adding some extra cabling - and I think Revell have over-simplified the fuel lines.

I woke up this morning with a bright idea on how to do a n/m rear section of the engine that won't require masking. I'll have a play before risking it for real.

More later.

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 11:45 AM UTC
Always happy to help where I can Rowan! I enjoy the research process, and the rabbit-hole that inevitably opens up in front of me!

Very nice neat work on the wiring, it really adds a lot to the overall image. I really need to start doing this on my builds. What did you use for the angle plug ends at the distributor end of the leads? They look great. Are you going to add the short lead from the centre of the distributor to the ignition coil?

I found this image during my morning coffee interweb search, it's a 57 T'bird engine, and the side view shows some more layout detail.


I have also seen the transmission in engine orange, gold and bare metal, so I'm not sure that there is a strictly correct answer.

Looking forward to more progress.

Cheers, D
Szmann
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Netherlands Antilles
Joined: September 02, 2014
KitMaker: 1,867 posts
Auto Modeler: 1,261 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 06:57 AM UTC
Nice job on the ignition wires, Rowan! They look to scale and neatly distributed (pun intended).
When comes about the right colour on the engines, accessories, or interiors you can pull always the wild card: "resto mode" gets you out of the trouble. And, honestly, I kinda like that orange on the engine.

Gabriel
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 06:08 AM UTC
Hi again

Using Damian's diagram, I've added the spark plug leads using lead wire:


I want to do a bit more tinkering, but I think they definitely cheer things up and I think I got each one connected to the correct terminal OK. Thanks again Damian.

The proverbial "elephant in the room" for me is the colour of the bellhousing and transmission. Revell's instructions state Engine Orange, which (being a newbie when it comes to modelling American cars of this era) I followed without questioning them. However, a post in a forum advising somebody restoring a '57 Thunderbird states that they were unpainted.

Unfortunately, I think I'm too far down the line to safely change the colour now - so, if it is wrong, I may just have to live with it.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 08:40 PM UTC
Hi Damian

That diagram is perfect - just what I need! I'm planning to add the leads today and was all set to simply guess the layout - and, looking at the diagram, I would have guessed wrong!

I watched the video a while ago. It's very informative and I'd kept the link handy - but I was still stuck as regards the ignition leads.

Many thanks and all the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 01:06 PM UTC
Hi Rowan.

Good to hear that you are making some progress on this build. I dug around in my archives and found this image, hopefully it helps.


Also, found this video:

https://youtu.be/Cf8rR9RiWvU

Look from about the 6-minute mark.

Cheers, D
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 03:06 AM UTC
Hi again

I need a bit of help with the engine. I want to do some basic detailing by adding ignition cables, but I can't find a diagram or clear photos to show the layout on a factory-finished car.

To make life more difficult when doing a search for photos, there were multiple engine options on the original car. The kit's engine has the distributor at the rear.

Any help would be much appreciated.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2020 - 06:56 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I agree with the concerns over the two-tone green interior.



Hi again Damian

Actually - it's a bit more than a two-tone scheme, the way I've done it. I've differentiated between the paint and vinyl surfaces - plus, of course, the carpet - making them all slightly different to create a wonderfully sick-inducing interior!

I guess one benefit of those "luxury" vinyl seat covers was they were easy to clean...

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 08:24 PM UTC
Hi Damian

Thanks for the tips on Bare metal foil. I'm looking forward to trying it. I must admit I'd never have thought of making the blade black to show up better - great idea!

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 01:44 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I've bought some Bare Metal foil to play with. Foiling is something I've never really experimented with properly (and I don't think I've even used any at all in probably 30 years), so this will be a great opportunity to expand my skill-set.

All the best

Rowan



Great to hear that this build has made it back to your bench Rowan, although I agree with the concerns over the two-tone green interior.

You will enjoy the BMF journey. I only started using it recently and was timid at first, but it is a great weapon in the arsenal now. I have found the key requirements are a new blade (I actually keep a dedicated Xacto aside for the task), Q-tips and toothpicks for burnishing. A good tip that I picked up from Jesper is to slightly round off and fine sand the point of the toothpick so that it doesn't catch and tear the foil. Another useful tip is to use a black texta to colour the very point of the Xacto blade so that it is visible against the foil when you are trimming it.

The main thing to remember is that the foil is quite strong in itself, but very easy to peel off and doesn't do any damage to the surface, so errors are really easy to remove and re-do! Ask me how I know

Cheers, D
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 08:17 AM UTC
Hi again

Nothing new to show yet, but I've been busy over the last few days spraying interior colours. It's a multi-tone green affair in my build and is certainly striking - although whether it would contribute to car-sickness on a long journey is another matter!

I've bought some Bare Metal foil to play with. Foiling is something I've never really experimented with properly (and I don't think I've even used any at all in probably 30 years), so this will be a great opportunity to expand my skill-set.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 07:59 AM UTC
Hi again

I thing I was a bit over-optimistic again! I reckon I'm running about 4 days behind where I hoped to be - but that's pretty amazing for me, because I'm usually about 4 months behind schedule!

So - tomorrow will be devoted to getting the Mustang fuselages and wings glued-up and left to cure. Then it'll be time for some Del Rio fun!

I think I'm finally getting into the swing of the lockdown. To be honest, I've grown so used to never being able to spend any sensible amount of time at the workbench, I couldn't really settle and get on with stuff even though Covid 19 has provided an opportunity. It's taken a week to get into the new mind-set.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 07:33 AM UTC
Cheers Damian

I think I was a bit over-optimistic in getting back to this build! Despite being officially on furlough, today was totally spent on work stuff. But, to quote Gone With The Wind - "Tomorrow is another day"!

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Monday, March 30, 2020 - 10:01 AM UTC
Hi Rowan.

Strange times indeed!

It will be good to see this one back on the bench, much as I am enjoying the P-51 epic!

Cheers, D
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Monday, March 30, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC
Hi again

Wow! It's odd reading my previous post in the light how events have overtaken everything! I've gone from 7-day weeks to enforced lock down at home.

Anyway, it's meant I've made good progress with the Mustangs I'm building for Eduard, so I'm going to switch focus back to the Del Rio a bit for a bit of variety in the next couple of days.

All the best

Rowan
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,437 posts
Auto Modeler: 384 posts
Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2020 - 11:34 AM UTC
Hi Damian

Well, I got a bit done, but I'm facing a couple of 7-day weeks at Oxfam covering for people either on vacation or unwell, so I don't expect to make a great deal of progress.

I was basically happy to clean up the inside of the roof, which does have a few distinct mould-lines. Admittedly, you're probably never going to see them on the finished model - but once you've spotted them, they're only going to bug you, so they've got to go.

All the best

Rowan
AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 7,508 posts
Auto Modeler: 2,493 posts
Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2020 - 10:53 AM UTC
Rowan, there really needs to be some sort of international resolution that work cannot interfere with scale modelling time!

Looking forward to the next update, whenever it arrives!

Cheers, D