Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 07:23 PM UTC
I have started building MPC's infamous 1972 Pontiac GTO kit.
The kit is every bit as bad, as it's reputation. Poor detail and fitting, lot's of flash and sinkmarks.
The plan is to build it as a daily beater.

Removed the inmolded wires and "details" on the firewall. New wires and clampdowns made from metal wire and winebottle foil.

A wee bit of detailing on the undercarriage.

On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 07:40 PM UTC
Cool, a GOAT!!
Beautiful orange plastic, nice detailing so far. I'm looking forward to following your progress on this one!
Cheers, D
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Revell 1/24 '53 Corvette (building as '54)
Revell 1/24 BMW 507 Coupe and Cabrio
Italeri 1/48 Me262 B-1a/U1 Nightfighter
Monogram 1/24 '57 Chevy Nomad
Dragon 1/350 USS Frank Knox DD-742

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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 08:22 PM UTC
ooo good choice Jesper!  
 This brings back memories of my childhood! Watching with interest!  
 If memory serves these were often built in a day or two with paint following shortly after  
 Ah, how times change  
 Stay home and build models! 
In 1/72
Gloster Gladiator MkII for the Bi-planes Campaign
In 1/350
Airfix 1:350 Type 45 Destroyer
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 08:53 PM UTC
Sorry, MPC of course 
 Damian: Yeah, you gotta love orange plastic. Will add more details, to the undercarriage. Next will be brakefluid line, if I can find wire in a suitable thickness
Russel: A day or two, well this will most likely be in a year or two 
 Thanks for looking in guy's
On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
Netherlands Antilles
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 01:43 AM UTC
Jesper, it was said already, but I cannot contain myself: the orange plastic is "spectacular" and the runny underside detail as well 

 However, you have the skill to by-pass the kit's shortcomings and the beginning looks very promising. I will follow with big interest this build, because I need to do my firewall and brake lines on my 
Chrisler 300 as well...
Cheers!
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC
I almost bought an MPC 67 GTO for $10. I was nervous because that is really cheap for an unopened box! Good to hear they are kind of meh.
Will be watching with interest!!
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 04:31 AM UTC
 Garbage  
Truck  
Option.  I'm assuming that the photo on the box is of the completed model.  Or is that just an extreme example of GM's refusal to take fits and finishes seriously in the '70's?
Looks like some really neat detail work you are putting into this one. 
  Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 09:18 PM UTC
Welcome aboard gentlemen.
 Quoted Text
Garbage Truck Option. I'm assuming that the photo on the box is of the completed model. Or is that just an extreme example of GM's refusal to take fits and finishes seriously in the '70's?
Mark: I'ill save that one, for if/when we make another Mopar Vs Chevy group build. 
On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
AussieReg
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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2019 - 04:01 AM UTC
Quoted Text
 Garbage  Truck  Option.  I'm assuming that the photo on the box is of the completed model.  Or is that just an extreme example of GM's refusal to take fits and finishes seriously in the '70's?
Looks like some really neat detail work you are putting into this one. 
 
Hey, don't knock the Goat! It was ahead of its time. Just look at those beautiful colour-coded bumpers.  
 ON the bench 
Revell 1/24 '53 Corvette (building as '54)
Revell 1/24 BMW 507 Coupe and Cabrio
Italeri 1/48 Me262 B-1a/U1 Nightfighter
Monogram 1/24 '57 Chevy Nomad
Dragon 1/350 USS Frank Knox DD-742
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 04:59 AM UTC
A wee update. Since this will be a daily beater, it needs to be corroded. To obtain this I have grinded(Dremel) from the backside, of the panels, until they where very thin and then used a scalpel to work my way through, to create the holes. If you just grind all the way through, with the Dremel, you will have round or elongated holes, which will just look odd. By using a scalpel you can create irregular/serrated edges.
The dark marks are, from a marker.

On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 05:21 AM UTC
In all my years of modelling the only kits I've ever built that were molded in orange was this one and the General Lee.  And the General Lee was the only one that looked good in orange.  Chargers and Goats were/are some of my childhood dream cars.  Both kits had sink marks, soft detail and warped frames but I pulled them off.  Watching this build closely.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 10:01 AM UTC
Jesper,
  That's one excellent start to a GTO daily beater. I don't recall seeing any, but a ton of LeMans beaters for sure.  
  I really like how you thinned the shell from the inside, then carved through from the outside. Really looks quite realistic. Back then it didn't take much for a American made car to have body rust and holes up here in the North East. The roads were always salted for every snow storm, so your car took a real beating. 
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 01:56 PM UTC
Nice development, 
Jesper!
I am familiar with the method you have used to make the rust holes, but I've never tried it myself because my cars 
have to have salon looks. But you stir me to try it on a 35th scale truck or somethin'.
Keep at it - it looks good (and interesting) so far!
Gabriel  
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 - 05:03 AM UTC
I have started working on the seats. The idea is to paint the seats in an orange/yellowish color, resembling the filing, of the seats, partially cover the seats in bmf, cover everything in semi gloss black and make wear and tear by scratching and removing part of the bmf.
This is the pre paint experiment.

The kit headlights really s... Found some lenses, in the spare part stash, incl. some smooth lenses, with a hole in the middle, which I think might have been some optional custom lenses, from a very old kit. These i will use as domes, inside the headlights. I have started drilling out the existing headlights and hopefully the spare lenses will be a perfect match.
  On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac

#439
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
Love the seat idea, might just try it on my next Chevy. 
 Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 - 11:06 AM UTC
Great progress Jesper, some effective techniques used here to give the old Goat the character you're looking for. The BMF used on the seat is like a modified hairspray method, without the nice smells and water. I'm very interested to see how it turns out.
Cheers, D
ON the bench 
Revell 1/24 '53 Corvette (building as '54)
Revell 1/24 BMW 507 Coupe and Cabrio
Italeri 1/48 Me262 B-1a/U1 Nightfighter
Monogram 1/24 '57 Chevy Nomad
Dragon 1/350 USS Frank Knox DD-742
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 - 11:36 AM UTC
Great start Jesper, I'm on board! 
 We come in peace, so shoot to kill...
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 03:30 AM UTC
Aha!
Jesper you're a goldmine of "unorthodox" methods. I'm going to rob you (again)!
I was contemplating to throw away my BMF chrome black which really is craps but now I have a use for it! Great idea!
On the lenses: I've done the same on my 
Mack DM600 build, but without the mirrors. It looks better than the blind molded parts, but I wasn't thrilled. Your idea is much better than mine. Good thinking!
Gabriel  
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Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 05:43 AM UTC
Jesper,
  I'm looking forward to seeing how your seat technique works with the BMF, as it sounds very interesting.
Joel
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Monogram 1/24 scale 427 Shelby Cobra
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Beemax 1/24 scale BMW M3 E30 1992 Evolution II
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 06:10 AM UTC
Thanks for looking in guy's.
I'm hoping the bmf trick Will pan out. If not, well it's easy to Peel off and try another approach.
On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 04:53 AM UTC
Made a bit of detail work, on the old Goat. 
The levers, for the steering column, made from steel rods(Found at work  

 ) Made the knobs by dipping the ends in CA glue. The steering column is primed and I just scraped of the primer, to show the metal.

Found some wire suitable for the battery cables. Made battery clamps, from wine bottle foil. A highly recommendable technic, since it gives you a perfect excuse to drink more wine 
 
My first attempt at making a throttle return spring. The thinnest copper wire, I could find, wound around a 0,50mm drill.

On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 05:03 AM UTC
Wow.
That is some great work!
How did the seats turn out?
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Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 05:27 AM UTC
Have made a base coat, to resemble the seat filling and have painted the seats with that, but have not yet applied the BMF. Will do that next week.
On the workbench:
MPC: 1972 Pontiac GTO
Revell: 1965 Mustang
Verlinden 120mm guard of the marine.
Revell: 2010 Camaro
Monogram: 1931 Rolls Royce
Italeri: LVT2 Amtrac
Netherlands Antilles
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 10:23 AM UTC
"Small" but very effective improvements, 
Jesper! Noted into my 
Book of SecretsGabriel  
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Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 - 02:26 AM UTC
Jesper,
  I'm really impressed with both the battery terminals and the carb return spring. Can't wait to see them installed as they really kick up the build a few notches for sure. 
 Joel
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Monogram 1/24 scale 427 Shelby Cobra
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