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Revell 1/24 1978 Trans Am
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 12:33 PM UTC
Thanks Gents for all the kind words of support... It's always a downer when you get to final lap and one of the tires blows out landing you in the kitty litter

After careful examination, it actually looks like the Turtle Wax (yep just the ol classic Turtle Wax I use on the car) hasn't eaten into, or dissolved the paint in any way. It actually seems that it's just left micro abrasions on the surface. Unusual, I know.

So, without access to really fine grades of paper (Treasury restrictions, you understand...) my plan is to rub back the affected surfaces (Just the sides of shell below the waist and between the wheel arches) with 2000 grit paper, removing all traces of the polish in the process (I hope) and then respray the clear locally while the rest of the car is masked off. Luckily the colour underneath has not been damaged, hopefully avoiding the need to colour match and saving the decals-Fingers crossed!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 12:03 PM UTC
I feel for you Russ!

I think it always difficult to match paint finishes so just working on the sides of the car, either through sanding/polishing or painting it is going to be difficult to match. I would bite the bullet and redo the shell though you would lose the decals already in place.

Good luck with what you try!

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 05:27 AM UTC
Russell,
Oh no !! Sorry to hear of your clear coat issues.

Turtle Wax has several types of waxes and polishes. Even their polishing compound is labeled as a polish, which it really isn't. I have a full shelf in my garage loaded with various products to polish and wax the Coupe.

Exactly what was the name of the product you used? Does the ingredients contain, mineral spirits, Alcohol, or a lacquer which would be it's base?

This is one of the main reasons why I only use a Lacquer based clear coat. But with that being said, all isn't lost.

Worst case scenario is that you need to wash down the clear coat surface to remove as much of the polish as possible. Then I would lightly rub out the finish with 6.000, 8,000, & 12,000. Then if you have the Novus system use both the fine and finish pastes, followed by only a Carnauba liquid wax. The finish should be perfect once again.

BTW, when ever I work on a polished shell where I have to hold it, I wear white cotton gloves from the drug store.

Joel
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 07:57 PM UTC
I'm really sorry that you've hit a snag here Russ, sounds very perplexing. The problem that I see is that you have used an enamel for both the colour and clear coats, so if there is a trace of mineral spirit solvent in the wax it has reacted with the paint. It might be tricky to remove the wax without further reaction with the paint. I'm wondering if a coat of something like Alclad Aqua Gloss over the top might restore the shine, and not react with enamel gloss coat.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 07:00 PM UTC
Ahh man, that really s...
Never heard of wax eating into the paint. Is it "only" the clear coat?

I would try and sand/polish it. If it doesn't work, then repaint. If you repaint, you need to remove all of the polishing compounds you've applied. Even a small trace of wax, can make the top coat start to crackle.
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 11:41 AM UTC
Disaster has struck!

After completing the application of the BMF chrome to the trim and installation of the glass, I noticed that the sides of the shell had been dulled by my hands when holding it.

Attempting to clean it up a bit, I applied turtle wax car polish and was dismayed that it began to eat into the paint

No matter how much I buffed, I have not been able to restore the shine and the blemish runs the entire length of both sides of the car from wheel arch to wheel arch.

Now, I really don't know what I'm going to do?

Do I, a) hit the area with some 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and then buff with some compound and hope like hell it restores the shine, or
b) respray the sides again?

Talk about a mojo killer!
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Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 08:29 AM UTC

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Looking good Russ, excellent finish. Have you picked up some BMF or are you going to mask and paint the chrome trims?

Cheers, D



Thanks D!

yep, ordered some BMF last night from BNA to the sounds of "gee, your hobby's expensive!"

And I had to ask: "as compared to?"



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Russell,
You really nailed that Gloss clear coat. Truly impressive deep shine.

Joel



Thanks Joel

Really, I can't take credit for it though. The enamels seem to self level as long as the dust bunnies stay away...

The hardest part was making sure the metallic effect wasn't ruined by over application of the paint
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Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 03:30 AM UTC
Russell,
You really nailed that Gloss clear coat. Truly impressive deep shine.

Joel
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2019 - 11:49 PM UTC
Looking good Russ, excellent finish. Have you picked up some BMF or are you going to mask and paint the chrome trims?

Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2019 - 09:53 PM UTC
Thanks Darrell

Clear coats on, masking off




next up, chrome
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 10:44 AM UTC
Great job Russel. Paint and decals look fantastic. The screaming chicken on the hood is great.Can't wait until its finished.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 - 09:37 PM UTC
Thanks Jesper
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 11:00 PM UTC
Top job, on the decals, Russell.
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 10:46 PM UTC
Thanks for the kind words guys

hoping to get the clear coat on this week sometime
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 09:29 PM UTC
the bonnet looks great Russ. Amazing finish with the blue and gold contrast. Looking forward to seeing it all together.

cheers
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 08:38 AM UTC
What Joel said, no silvering at all and the edges look completely gone.
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 01:52 AM UTC
Russell,

I just love those screaming Eagle decals. And your application of them came out dead on perfect.

Joel
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2019 - 10:54 PM UTC
Looking great Russ! Gotta love the thunderchicken!

Can't wait to see this one all glossed up and assembled.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2019 - 09:44 PM UTC
Decals




Revell very kindly provided decals for the turn signal lights which saved lots of blood sweat and tears masking and painting.

clear coats next
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Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 08:27 AM UTC

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Great colour and nice finish Russ.
I think dust is part of a modellers life when it comes to painting, I always hope it doesn't happen, but so far always dashed

cheers

Michael



Thanks Michael I've since found some more dust bunnies but I'm tempted to look the other way at this stage


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I hate you. That's the finish I had in mind for my '69 Camaro. Didn't get there at all.

Looks great, can't wait for the finish.



It's not my fault, I swear: It's the enamel's!

High praise indeed-thanks Mark


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Beautiful smooth paintjob.



Thanks Jesper


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I found this later in the build progress. Great build and some good ideas I will use. I had a 78 Trans Am with the T/A 6.6 litre engine. Installed a warmed over Chev 454 engine later in its life. Loved the car. Will watch the build.



Thanks Darrell and welcome aboard

bet you wish you still had the Trans Am
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Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 04:20 AM UTC
I found this later in the build progress. Great build and some good ideas I will use. I had a 78 Trans Am with the T/A 6.6 litre engine. Installed a warmed over Chev 454 engine later in its life. Loved the car. Will watch the build.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 - 05:11 PM UTC
Beautiful smooth paintjob.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 - 01:38 PM UTC
I hate you. That's the finish I had in mind for my '69 Camaro. Didn't get there at all.

Looks great, can't wait for the finish.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 - 11:25 AM UTC
Great colour and nice finish Russ.
I think dust is part of a modellers life when it comes to painting, I always hope it doesn't happen, but so far always dashed

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 - 09:52 AM UTC

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Stuck now in average cars like Kias and Nissans.



you, me and whole lot of others too, Shell