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Ferrari F50 Barchetta Build review
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 01:00 AM UTC

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Gabriel, this has been one noxious kit!

But, you have turned the proverbial pig's ear into the silk purse!

Congratulations to you, sir, on conquering this challenge and providing your thoughts on this kit!

Look forward to seeing what challenge you take on next!



Kind like always, Russ, thank you.
My last challenge it's a NASCAR build, and isn't a challenge at all It runs so smooth that I almost lost my brakes and I am nearly finished with it. You can see it in the GB thread.

Gabriel
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 07:21 PM UTC
Gabriel, this has been one noxious kit!

But, you have turned the proverbial pig's ear into the silk purse!

Congratulations to you, sir, on conquering this challenge and providing your thoughts on this kit!

Look forward to seeing what challenge you take on next!
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 04:40 PM UTC

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Hi Gabriel,

It's too bad that the kit was such a mess - it looks like you overcame a steady stream of "challenges" along the way - which is a drag. You did a great job with this, which in the end looks pretty good.

A kit like this is very frustrating to build, for me anyway. At some point I find myself wondering why bother? yet, like you, I finish them. It's funny, I used to have the same attitude about reading books, even if I didn't like the story or characters etc once started, I felt a certain obligation to the author - they stuck it out and finished, so I felt obliged to read the whole thing! No more - bad book now = Stop reading it!

Great save on what certainly appears to have been a mediocre kit.

Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff -

Cheers,
Nick



Thanks, Nick
I can remember myself ever letting a book go - and as a history student I had to go over many uncomfortable lectures. As for the kits, I ever abandoned only three: a resin kit which I received in a dismal state and I've tried to save it; a B17 in 1/48 which I completely lost the call for it, then hurricane Irma destroyed it when it was 90% complete, and an Airfix Fokker monoplane - this one I still have - the reason I stopped it was because I lost a wheel and I never bothered to scratch another one or to 3D print one.
This Barchetta we're talking about is intended as a toy and was treated as such by the manufacturer, unfortunately. A black belt modeller will do a good job out of it, if it has the required time and interest - I just didn't have any in unlimited amount.


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You got there in the end and it pretty impressive Gabriel given the nature of kit. Still, it looks like a great rendition of a F50 so you can be proud of that.

Cheers
Michael



Michael, from normal watching distance, yes, it looks like a F-50. Yet is too fragile to give it to my neighbor kid to play with. Probably it will decorate my day room until the salty dusty Caribbean slick will take over and I'm gonna trash it.

Gabriel
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 01:22 PM UTC
You got there in the end and it pretty impressive Gabriel given the nature of kit. Still, it looks like a great rendition of a F50 so you can be proud of that.

Cheers
Michael
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 05:50 AM UTC
Hi Gabriel,

It's too bad that the kit was such a mess - it looks like you overcame a steady stream of "challenges" along the way - which is a drag. You did a great job with this, which in the end looks pretty good.

A kit like this is very frustrating to build, for me anyway. At some point I find myself wondering why bother? yet, like you, I finish them. It's funny, I used to have the same attitude about reading books, even if I didn't like the story or characters etc once started, I felt a certain obligation to the author - they stuck it out and finished, so I felt obliged to read the whole thing! No more - bad book now = Stop reading it!

Great save on what certainly appears to have been a mediocre kit.

Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff -

Cheers,
Nick
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 12:57 AM UTC
Thanks, Jesper. That was a close call! LOL

Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 08:28 PM UTC
You did show that kit, who's the boss. Well done Gabriel.
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 12:49 PM UTC
Robert, Damian and Joel - thank you guys. It does look like an F-50 from afar, indeed, but I'm not all happy with the final looks, as there are just too many faults. Yes, it was a valuable lesson I learnt here but, honestly, I prefer the kind of kit that works with you not against you...

Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 09:01 AM UTC
Gabriel,
No matter what, you brought that horrid kit up to standards and crossed the finish line. Cudo's for a build exceeding well done despite having to deal with almost every known model kit molding issue.

The finished model, does indeed look quite good.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 01:40 PM UTC
I totally agree with Robert, considering the issues that you had to deal with, this came up very nicely indeed!

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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 01:15 PM UTC
Nice finish Gabriel, with all you had to fix on this kit it's amazing how good it turned out, well done.
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 12:44 PM UTC

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Gabriel,
I really like the overall look with the rear deck closed in the down position. She's really starting to look like a proper Ferrari for sure.

Joel



Joel, it's for the best, indeed, but the fit is not that good after all.


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this kit's been difficult for sure, but you're bashing it into shape in a really good way Gabriel


Russ, I agree, it looks like a Ferrari F50 after all, but I'm still crying for the wasted time To me, it just not worth it.


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Gabriel you done some nice work on a dog of a kit, i think i will stay far away from this kit.


Robert run away from it. It's my worst modeling experience so far.

UPDATE - Bitter after-taste
Even the last "easy" bits weren't easy. The window had a deep scratch that I needed to sand it off:


Earlier on I was complaining about my new sanding clothes. Well, maybe they aren't too effective on 2K, but they work a charm on clear plastic:


The mirrors had sink marks and I found it easier to cut some thin cardboard inserts which I glued over than to fill and sand. Later on I covered the paper inserts with BMF. Note my red (outside the mirrors) is basically indistinguishable from the kit's red (inside the mirrors)


The model complete, as is










My conclusions to the build: not a kit to die for! The engineering has its moments of brilliance, but the poor quality of the molds and the archaic conception ruin what could have been a beautiful kit. In short, nothing matches properly, except for 4 interior parts.
Not recommended, unless you die to have an F50 in your collection or some Kuwait sheikh pays you big cash to make a replica of his F50. If I would ever knew before what I am against, I will never accepted this kit for review.
Needless to say, CC Lee joins MPC and MiniCraft in my self imposed buy ban.
Sadly.

Gabriel
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 02:57 AM UTC
Gabriel you done some nice work on a dog of a kit, i think i will stay far away from this kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 06:13 PM UTC
this kit's been difficult for sure, but you're bashing it into shape in a really good way Gabriel
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - 07:10 AM UTC
Gabriel,
I really like the overall look with the rear deck closed in the down position. She's really starting to look like a proper Ferrari for sure.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - 03:30 AM UTC

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Gabriel,
It's an epic war for sure, but I'm confident that you'll triumph at the end.

Like I said, if it were me, the model would have long ago made the one way trip to the recycling center. This my friend is no Plan C. It's Plan A full steam ahead.

Joel



Thank you for your vote of confidence, Joel!
I still fighting here, but I lost a little steam last two days. Now I'm on the rise again because I don't want to miss the start to GB and TCC.


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An exercise in patience and ingenuity, with a good dose of brute strength!

You will be very glad to see this one off the bench and replaced by a "Speed Machine" in a few days time!

Cheers, D



Thanks, D! Yes, I cannot wait to see it gone off my bench, but I cannot rush it just now. I still have a couple of sensitive assemblies to add on, all with problems.


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Gabriel, this kit is sure giving more than its fair share of problems!

Stick with it though, you're nearly there!


Russ, yes, I'm having a wobbly finishing, but I'll pass the line for sure. Just in about maximum two days!


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Show that Ferrari who's the boss.


Jesper, I've tried that all along, but it proved to be a very resourceful enemy, always keeping one more ace in the sleeve. But unceremoniously I will win

UPDATE - Last bits
The exhaust problem is now partially solved. I had to break the tips I just glued on, because the angle on the internal component and the external one does not fit with the opening. I'll re-glue the tips from outside the bumper this time. Meanwhile I cut and glued some fairings as link between inner and outer parts and as a structural resistance element as well. Finally the engine is anchored now from all sides and it solidly in:


While that exhaust business was drying, I installed the glass window on the engine deck. This time the fit was good:


I gave up all the hope in having an opening engine deck because all my efforts to save the engine were annihilated by the bad fit of the wheel arches in the engine compartment:


All the body parts dry-fitted. Almost good here, and having a closed engine deck now gives me actually the possibility to enforce a better fit at the rear:


I still have to install the windows rear and front, to add the mirrors and the wheels and that it was. The windows look good but the front one has few shallow scratches that I need to deal with first. I'm not sure about decals on this one - they seem to be badly off register and I'm afraid they'll do more bad than good here.

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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2020 - 09:53 PM UTC
Show that Ferrari who's the boss.
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2020 - 12:01 AM UTC
Gabriel, this kit is sure giving more than its fair share of problems!

Stick with it though, you're nearly there!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 10:08 AM UTC
An exercise in patience and ingenuity, with a good dose of brute strength!

You will be very glad to see this one off the bench and replaced by a "Speed Machine" in a few days time!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 09:00 AM UTC
Gabriel,
It's an epic war for sure, but I'm confident that you'll triumph at the end.

Like I said, if it were me, the model would have long ago made the one way trip to the recycling center. This my friend is no Plan C. It's Plan A full steam ahead.

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 06:50 AM UTC

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Meanwhile, I scraped from the thickness with my modelling knife, but still there is a difference there. I just got bored and I took a break.

Gabriel



Gabriel, that is a horrible and lazy error by the manufacturer. If it was me, I would razor saw them off and replace with some Aluminium or Styrene tube.



Thanks for the suggestion, D.. See the update.

Joel and Michael, from now on the Plan C applies for the whole build. I just had enough of it

UPDATE
Following Damian's advice, I sawed off the ends of the exhausts and replaced them with plastic tubes... but wasn't to last!



Then I installed the light buckets from inside. The fit was so-so, but with some extra TET and persuasion, it turned out OK:


Only after that the show begun. Try and fit the body shell to the floor pan if you can, Gabriel! The fit is horrendous all over the place, but this is the first time that I had to remove the dash to install the floor. LOL! The wheel arches were pressing against the dash and the front end just cannot fit! I removed the dash, installed the front (only) of the body (there is still alot of pressure between wheel arches and the body proper), then reinstalled the dash. Of course, it doesn't fit in its old space, but it was pushed inside with a quarter mm. I could live with it, if the gap would have been symmetrical, but no such luxury: the gap was wider to the left than to the right. I had to use my trademark "liquid gasket material" (white glue + black acrylic + water) and fill the gap all along the dash under the window frame. Fortunately, it is easily disguised as the window frame!


I had to use all the clamps and a lot of masking tape to force the body and bottom pan together, and the alignment it's far from perfect. In using force, I broke again the newly installed exhaust tips, I put fingerprints all over the place, and I caused an additional scratch on the body. Why not, if I can!


So, Plan C(ovardice) in full swing. No more opening engine bay, just add the last details and done with it! Ogh, and I scratched further the black chrome BMF; I might end up painting the stripe with acrylic

Gabriel
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 11:03 AM UTC

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Gabriel,
The polished plate looks darn good to me. But for what it's worth, my polishing system for glass is just like for clear gloss. I start with 3,000 grit if I really did a poor bad paint job. But most times I can start with 6,000 wet or even 8,000, and finally 12,000. That takes care of the smoothness issues and will remove surface scratches. Then I use the 3 part Gravity polishing system, but I've had excellent results with the Novus system as well.

If the scratch is more then barely a surface scratch then I go to plan B: which is I very carefully fill the scratch with CA glue. Let dry for about an hour, then start the sanding so that the surface is flush. The polishing I leave for the following day after the CA glue really cured. It comes pretty close but it's not 100% perfect.

Lastly, is my plan C: I just live with it as I'm basically pretty lazy a good deal of the time.

Joel



I like that Joel! I'm an Plan C type of guy a lot of the time

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 10:14 AM UTC
Gabriel,
The polished plate looks darn good to me. But for what it's worth, my polishing system for glass is just like for clear gloss. I start with 3,000 grit if I really did a poor bad paint job. But most times I can start with 6,000 wet or even 8,000, and finally 12,000. That takes care of the smoothness issues and will remove surface scratches. Then I use the 3 part Gravity polishing system, but I've had excellent results with the Novus system as well.

If the scratch is more then barely a surface scratch then I go to plan B: which is I very carefully fill the scratch with CA glue. Let dry for about an hour, then start the sanding so that the surface is flush. The polishing I leave for the following day after the CA glue really cured. It comes pretty close but it's not 100% perfect.

Lastly, is my plan C: I just live with it as I'm basically pretty lazy a good deal of the time.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 10:08 AM UTC

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Meanwhile, I scraped from the thickness with my modelling knife, but still there is a difference there. I just got bored and I took a break.

Gabriel



Gabriel, that is a horrible and lazy error by the manufacturer. If it was me, I would razor saw them off and replace with some Aluminium or Styrene tube.

You are fighting a brave battle, but you have fought this enemy before and won!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 08:22 AM UTC

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Gabriel,

The wheels & tires really look good except for the one tire & wheel on the front right. Sometimes just flipping the tire around solves that issue for some unknown reason.


I'm gonna try and see if I can arrange somehow better


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I'm amazed that the black stripe is BMF. I just can't work with the stuff without screwing it up.


Yes, it is a rather difficult process until you get a hold on it. I had lots of problems myself. And the black chrome I used here it's really troublesome.

UPDATE - never ending problems
Ferrari F50 has a mesh ar the back of the engine, helping with the airflow and cooling. In the kit, the guys from CC Lee represented it as a clear part. Smart enough solution, if they would have provided a decal to replicate the mesh. I decided to paint it with smoke, but before I can lay any paint on it, I have to deal with the scratches:


I used my usual method for clear parts: rough sanding, then progressively bigger grit. I took the opportunity to test my new sanding clothes 6000 and up - and I'm not impressed to be honest. I ended up polishing with Novus




The scratch still visible there is on the back of the part, so doesn't bother me too much (I think).

However, the worst news come from test fitting the body to the chassis. The exhaust tips have to pass thru the rear bumper but... surprize! The left bank is almost twice as thick as the right bank and jusr doesn't fit! I don't know how I haven't seen that one until this point!


Meanwhile, I scraped from the thickness with my modelling knife, but still there is a difference there. I just got bored and I took a break.

Gabriel