Now that hardtop really looks like it was meant to fit. I'd certainly say that's one great job of Rub Goldberg modeling.
Joel
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Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 01:04 AM UTC
D,
Now that hardtop really looks like it was meant to fit. I'd certainly say that's one great job of Rub Goldberg modeling.
Joel
Now that hardtop really looks like it was meant to fit. I'd certainly say that's one great job of Rub Goldberg modeling.
Joel
AussieReg
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 02:54 AM UTC
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D,
Now that hardtop really looks like it was meant to fit. I'd certainly say that's one great job of Rub Goldberg modeling.
Joel
Spot on Joel, a lot more complicated than it really needed to be! It would have been perfect if the hard top would just sit in place without glue, easy to lift off for display.
A bit of production line assembly tonight, I built up the two sets of wheels.
Of course, accompanied by a glass or two of Shiraz to lubricate the machinery!
Cheers, D
Szmann
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 07:23 AM UTC
Following this one as time allows, D..
I also noted the bad match of the top. Not so pleasant gift.
Gabriel
I also noted the bad match of the top. Not so pleasant gift.
Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 10:42 AM UTC
Looking good so far D. Masterful job on the hard top correction.
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 11:25 AM UTC
Joel, Gabriel, David, many thanks for checking in!
I'm happy with the result on the hard top, and hoping to get some primer shot on both bodies today. My biggest fear is that the pressure needed to pull the hard top down might have also warped the body. Sitting it on a flat surface it seems ok, but I will know for sure once I get to mating it up with the rolling chassis.
Looking at some finer details, it's time for a level of compromise to be accepted. The kit wheels are somewhere between the Von Goertz Cabrio and the Surtees Coupe.
They nicely represent the "claw" style outer rim of the Cabrio -
but with the chrome hubcap of the Coupe -
So, compromise reached, I'm going to aim at Aluminium rims, body colour outers and chrome hubs on both builds.
Cheers, D
I'm happy with the result on the hard top, and hoping to get some primer shot on both bodies today. My biggest fear is that the pressure needed to pull the hard top down might have also warped the body. Sitting it on a flat surface it seems ok, but I will know for sure once I get to mating it up with the rolling chassis.
Looking at some finer details, it's time for a level of compromise to be accepted. The kit wheels are somewhere between the Von Goertz Cabrio and the Surtees Coupe.
They nicely represent the "claw" style outer rim of the Cabrio -
but with the chrome hubcap of the Coupe -
So, compromise reached, I'm going to aim at Aluminium rims, body colour outers and chrome hubs on both builds.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 11:39 AM UTC
D,
Good thinking on the compromise on the wheels. Will look perfect on both cars.
Joel
Good thinking on the compromise on the wheels. Will look perfect on both cars.
Joel
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 02:13 PM UTC
Sprue Goo! What marvelous stuff you've invented there, D 
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 02:21 PM UTC
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Sprue Goo! What marvelous stuff you've invented there, D
I'd love to take the credit Russ, but like everything else I do, it's begged, borrowed or stolen from another modeler online somewhere! I just constantly tweak the mix with a dash of TET or a couple of sticks of sprue.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 09:36 PM UTC
I managed some time on the airbrush today, loaded up with MS1500 Black primer and shot about 20 parts from various builds I have scattered around!
I primed the engines, radiators and rims for both of the 507's as well as the body (after some fiddly chrome masking) and bonnet of the Coupe.
The Coupe got black primer for the basically silver top coat colour. The Cabrio will get MS1500 Grey primer for the red top coat.
I will shoot the interior next, then fine wet sand and spot prime if required.
Cheers, D
I primed the engines, radiators and rims for both of the 507's as well as the body (after some fiddly chrome masking) and bonnet of the Coupe.
The Coupe got black primer for the basically silver top coat colour. The Cabrio will get MS1500 Grey primer for the red top coat.
I will shoot the interior next, then fine wet sand and spot prime if required.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 01:26 AM UTC
The black primer looks excellent - the coveted "eggshell" semi-gloss.
Note on red: it is very sensitive to the primer colour
white, yellow, gold beige primer -> "permanent" intense red;
gray primer -> desaturated, "shallow" red, sometimes with pinkish tones
black primer -> "deep" cherry glossy red.
Also red is known as a very weak blocker - you need at least 2 coats over any of the primers - most probably over black and gray.
Gabriel
Note on red: it is very sensitive to the primer colour
white, yellow, gold beige primer -> "permanent" intense red;
gray primer -> desaturated, "shallow" red, sometimes with pinkish tones
black primer -> "deep" cherry glossy red.
Also red is known as a very weak blocker - you need at least 2 coats over any of the primers - most probably over black and gray.
Gabriel
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 02:21 AM UTC
D,
Wheels look excellent in the black primer coat as does the body shell.
Gotta say that you've been on some roll with builds as of late.
Joel
Wheels look excellent in the black primer coat as does the body shell.
Gotta say that you've been on some roll with builds as of late.
Joel
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 01:05 PM UTC
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Also red is known as a very weak blocker - you need at least 2 coats over any of the primers - most probably over black and gray.
Many thanks for the advice Gabriel, much appreciated. I have MS1500 White in my arsenal as well, but it might be difficult to get an even coverage over the white plastic. My plan might be to give a light base coat of MS1500 Grey to check for any required surface work, then a top coat of MS1500 White.
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Wheels look excellent in the black primer coat as does the body shell.Gotta say that you've been on some roll with builds as of late.
Thanks Joel. One of the side "benefits" of not getting much sleep is a bit of bench time at the moment.
Meanwhile, the engines got a shot of SMS Stainless Steel. Over the satin of the MS1500 Black this looks like a great base for further detailing.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 01:32 PM UTC
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I have MS1500 White in my arsenal as well, but it might be difficult to get an even coverage over the white plastic. My plan might be to give a light base coat of MS1500 Grey to check for any required surface work, then a top coat of MS1500 White.
It is the perfect solution in your case, I believe. I did exactly the same in reverse on my Lotus - first primer gray MS to see properly all dings and scratches, then black which I wanted as my underlying shade.
I don't know if SMS paints are enchanted or you upped your skill with metallics by a mile - I assume both - but you're delivering superb performances lately with the kinky metallics. Excellent!
Gabriel
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Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 02:12 PM UTC
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It is the perfect solution in your case, I believe. I did exactly the same in reverse on my Lotus - first primer gray MS to see properly all dings and scratches, then black which I wanted as my underlying shade.
Your Lotus is looking great, I just saw the photos of the second BRG coat on and it is such a deeeeeeeeeep shade!
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I don't know if SMS paints are enchanted or you upped your skill with metallics by a mile - I assume both - but you're delivering superb performances lately with the kinky metallics. Excellent!
Definitely more paint quality than skills Gabriel. I highly recommend these paints to anybody to try out (not just because I know Scott, the owner of the company). They shoot and cover beautifully straight from the bottle, and in very hot weather a couple of drops of MLT in the airbrush cup keeps them flowing without tip or air drying problems.
Scott has just sent an order of 4,150 bottles to his first UK distributor, and an even bigger order is about to be despatched to the US.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2020 - 01:23 AM UTC
D,
I'm going to be doing basically the same my standard MS 1500 Gray primer and then a true base coat of white before the color coat on my new build: Beemax BMW M3 EVO 30. The base white doesn't have to be full coverage like a color coat. At least that's the theory I'm going with.
That SMS Steel looks fantastic. I gotta checkout who carries those Metallics here in the states, and give them a try.
Joel
I'm going to be doing basically the same my standard MS 1500 Gray primer and then a true base coat of white before the color coat on my new build: Beemax BMW M3 EVO 30. The base white doesn't have to be full coverage like a color coat. At least that's the theory I'm going with.
That SMS Steel looks fantastic. I gotta checkout who carries those Metallics here in the states, and give them a try.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2020 - 01:45 AM UTC
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That SMS Steel looks fantastic. I gotta checkout who carries those Metallics here in the states, and give them a try.
www.usagundamstore.com
You won't be disappointed Joel, they really are great paints!
I'm looking forward to some progress reports on your new build as well, those Beemax kits look to be a really nice thing!
Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2020 - 02:41 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThat SMS Steel looks fantastic. I gotta checkout who carries those Metallics here in the states, and give them a try.
www.usagundamstore.com
You won't be disappointed Joel, they really are great paints!
I'm looking forward to some progress reports on your new build as well, those Beemax kits look to be a really nice thing!
Cheers, D
I was going to ask the same question regarding the paint supplier in US. Definitely worth a try - at least the metallic range as TCP are disappointing in that compartment.
Also I am very interested in Beemax progress, Joel
Gabriel
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 11:10 AM UTC
When you go down the detailing rabbit-hole, be prepared for some surprises!
The ignition coil on the Von Goertz Cabrio is mounted on the top of the engine -
On the Surtees Coupe it's nowhere to be seen!
The black coil lead looks like it is heading down to the side wall on the inner fender, so I might try to fit the coil there.
Fun times ahead.
Cheers, D
The ignition coil on the Von Goertz Cabrio is mounted on the top of the engine -
On the Surtees Coupe it's nowhere to be seen!
The black coil lead looks like it is heading down to the side wall on the inner fender, so I might try to fit the coil there.
Fun times ahead.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 02:32 PM UTC
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The black coil lead looks like it is heading down to the side wall on the inner fender, so I might try to fit the coil there.
... yet the mount seems to be still on the engine head; the sleeve that protects the cable in the first example it is also gone. I suspect a lousy mechanic in the second example.
Gabriel
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 02:44 PM UTC
I would go with the first photo since that looks right and the bracket is there in the second. You never know when the second photo was taken, maybe in a garage, and the coil had been removed for replacement especially as it looks like the leads are still there.
cheers
Michael
cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 10:25 PM UTC
It would make more sense to have the coil in the correct location for both builds, I think I will go that way!
Beginning work on the engine details tonight, some paint on the alternator and distributor, and started on a few of the ignition leads. I'm happy with how they look so far.
I might paint the leads yellow on the second engine, still undecided, and the distributor cap needs to be a bit more red and darker.
Cheers, D
Beginning work on the engine details tonight, some paint on the alternator and distributor, and started on a few of the ignition leads. I'm happy with how they look so far.
I might paint the leads yellow on the second engine, still undecided, and the distributor cap needs to be a bit more red and darker.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 11:00 PM UTC
Black primer looks nice and smooth.
Love the metal look, of the engine. I need to look for SMS paint.
Ignition coils are not that fond of heat, so it might have been for that reason the coil was moved away, from the engine.
Love the metal look, of the engine. I need to look for SMS paint.
Ignition coils are not that fond of heat, so it might have been for that reason the coil was moved away, from the engine.
AussieReg
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 11:08 PM UTC
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Black primer looks nice and smooth.
Love the metal look, of the engine. I need to look for SMS paint.
Ignition coils are not that fond of heat, so it might have been for that reason the coil was moved away, from the engine.
Thanks Jesper.
The first UK/EU stockist for SMS paints will be Frome Model Centre, their stand has already arrived but the paint has just left Australia. Keep an eye on their website HERE , and I will keep you all updated as well.
Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 05:18 AM UTC
D,
Thanks for the link, it's much appreciated.
Both engines really do look quite nice especially with the spark plug wires added.
Like I said earlier, you're really flying through this double build.
joel
Thanks for the link, it's much appreciated.
Both engines really do look quite nice especially with the spark plug wires added.
Like I said earlier, you're really flying through this double build.
joel
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 02:23 PM UTC
Good start on the engine wiring Damian. I'll be interested to see how far you go with it! The Sistine chapel is within reach
cheers
Michael
cheers
Michael
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