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Tamiya 1/12 Nissan Fairlady 240ZG Build
foenetik
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 08:20 AM UTC

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Tony,
Yep, 12 inches is probably too far away. I use mist coating for building up enamels and lacquers so they don't run, but it doesn't work well with Future because of it's self leveling properties. It's designed to be applied in heavy coats, and its fast drying. I recommend turning up the paint flow on your AB up and turning down the pressure to start. If you hang the model from a coat hanger, the Future will naturally drip off, and you can use the "wicking" method above to remove the excess, then just let it level on its own. There's a natural tendency of modelers to mess with it as its drying, because we see drips and streaks-- just ignore them and let it dry and level on its own. Once its thoroughly dry, if there are high spots, you can sand them and re-future. As to your question about clear coats-- I would give the future at least a week to dry before clear coating. I only have experience clear coating future with light coats of Testors lacquer clear gloss and Alclad Clear Kote in the round bottles (I prefer the Alclad unthinned)-- I'd be careful with anything else-- but give the Future plenty of time to harden-- lacquers are naturally caustic, and could cause problems with Future that is partially cured-- Humidity is again an issue-- Future takes longer to dry in humid climates (like RI or Washington where I live) so I recommend finding a warm dry place to let it cure. VR Russ



thank you, this is all very valuble info. i really appreciate it.
foenetik
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 08:52 AM UTC
russ, i am ecstatic right now! so im also working on a top studio YZR (race bike) and i use alclads, so i have to gloss coat everything black... and i decided to use your tip of lowering pressure a bit, and getting closer. my airbrushing just improved exponentially. i always had orange peel on the black gloss and i guess it was cause i was too far away so it was drying before it hit the part. i just coated some pieces, and the second coat went on like glass. man, im so happy right now. thank you so much! im putting a gold star next to your name
Kevlar06
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Washington, United States
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 09:51 AM UTC
Tony,
I'm happy its working for you. I've been modeling (off and on) for close to 55 years now, I started in 1959 with a Monogram Jeep and 37mm gun given to me by my Brother in-Law, who was a surgeon (my sister was 15 years older than I). He was a world class modeller and built WWI biplanes, sailing ships, and the occasional race car just to keep his manual dexterity skills up. He could paint airbrush finishes-- without the airbrush using a five and dime paintbrush and old Pactra paints, some of which were cellulose based. He started me in this hobby. I've learned a lot over those 55 years--sometimes the hard way. I didn't do a lot of modeling in the 30 years I spent in the Army, But while I was in School at the Naval War College in Newport in 1991-92, I had the time and opportunity to build. My travels always took me to places where I could visit LHS's, so when I retired in 2006, I had quite a large stash of models, and I started building commissions. I gave that up this year, because I didn't get the opportunity to build much for myself. My model building experience is based on a lot of trial and error, knowledge passed on to me by fellow modellers, and reading a lot of magazines like Fine Scale Modeler and Scale Auto. I don't have all the answers, But I'm always glad to help a fellow modeller with knowledge I do have. Now, if I could only master these darn confuser (computer) things-- I'd publish some model photos!. I did write a few articles for Internet Modeler a while back (1/72 CMR S-23 and Contrail 1/72 HP 42 aircraft), but they did all the computer editing. Again, I'm looking forward to your finished Z-car. I had mine in Germany in 1978-- a tall blond female German Polizei almost wrote me a ticket just for having the Z on the street-- but she settled for a warning, and the promise of a ride on the Autobahn. It was not unusual to hit 125-130 on the straight stretches over there. It was the "funnest" car I ever owned. In December 1979, I drove it from Wurzburg to Lubeck on the North Sea, at times through 2 feet of compact snow-- it was white knuckles a few times, and Leopard Tanks were used to extract stuck cars on the autobahn, but that Z got us through OK-- wish I'd never sold mine. VR, Russ
foenetik
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 10:36 AM UTC

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Tony,
I'm happy its working for you. I've been modeling (off and on) for close to 55 years now, I started in 1959 with a Monogram Jeep and 37mm gun given to me by my Brother in-Law, who was a surgeon (my sister was 15 years older than I). He was a world class modeller and built WWI biplanes, sailing ships, and the occasional race car just to keep his manual dexterity skills up. He could paint airbrush finishes-- without the airbrush using a five and dime paintbrush and old Pactra paints, some of which were cellulose based. He started me in this hobby. I've learned a lot over those 55 years--sometimes the hard way. I didn't do a lot of modeling in the 30 years I spent in the Army, But while I was in School at the Naval War College in Newport in 1991-92, I had the time and opportunity to build. My travels always took me to places where I could visit LHS's, so when I retired in 2006, I had quite a large stash of models, and I started building commissions. I gave that up this year, because I didn't get the opportunity to build much for myself. My model building experience is based on a lot of trial and error, knowledge passed on to me by fellow modellers, and reading a lot of magazines like Fine Scale Modeler and Scale Auto. I don't have all the answers, But I'm always glad to help a fellow modeller with knowledge I do have. Now, if I could only master these darn confuser (computer) things-- I'd publish some model photos!. I did write a few articles for Internet Modeler a while back (1/72 CMR S-23 and Contrail 1/72 HP 42 aircraft), but they did all the computer editing. Again, I'm looking forward to your finished Z-car. I had mine in Germany in 1978-- a tall blond female German Polizei almost wrote me a ticket just for having the Z on the street-- but she settled for a warning, and the promise of a ride on the Autobahn. It was not unusual to hit 125-130 on the straight stretches over there. It was the "funnest" car I ever owned. In December 1979, I drove it from Wurzburg to Lubeck on the North Sea, at times through 2 feet of compact snow-- it was white knuckles a few times, and Leopard Tanks were used to extract stuck cars on the autobahn, but that Z got us through OK-- wish I'd never sold mine. VR, Russ



thats awesome youve been modeling so long. i hope to achieve those numbers one day. This is my 4th model since i took a 15 year break, but the ones i did as a child were nothing to speak of. I enjoy it very much. Especially when i get an opportunity such as this one to do a review. Its taking a little longer than expected but im happy with it. My knowledge thus far is on trial and error as well. I have a fellow modeler whom helps me all the time (he is an excellent modeler), and im very thankful for that. the hobby can be discouraging when mishaps happen but thats how you learn. My coworker has a Z that is his dream car, and he built with his dad so im presenting this to him when its done so i want it to be perfect (hence why its taking me a while). I always welcome help and criticism as i feel it will help me progress. I want to get better and do new things with each model i take on, i dont ever want to get stagnant. I have to say, i was a bit taken back when i got back into the hobby as it changed so much. there are so many products and do-dads now that it can be overwhelming, and as vast as the internet is, it isnt always fruitful when it comes to finding out how to do something. Ive found my best luck is on forums with people like you who have done it for a while and already made the errors i make so you know what youre talking about. I dont expect anyone to know it all, in fact im skeptical of those who say they do. Theres always something new to learn.

im glad the z got you through those times. Although my car hobby was newer cars, i know the feeling of a fun car. I had a turbocharged protege with a custom air/water intercooler (dynod around 230whp which is much more than stock) and it always put a smile on my face. I model all different things, but my first love is cars. Im also very glad you are following my build. It makes me feel like im doing something right when others take interest in my work. so again, thanks!
SLYDIT
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New Zealand
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Posted: Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 10:30 AM UTC
i must say i am a bit annoyed at the street custom coming out. ive been keeping an original NIB 240zg kit on the shelf and planned to start building and modding it this year...

the two things i dont about the 240 kit is...
1) WHEELS what was tamiya thinking?? those wheels are RUBBISH! could have at least made available some modern 17" watanabe's for people who want a car that doesnt look weird.the wheel let the car down more than anything else so they made a new release with wheels which are just as bad.. DUH!

2) the ZG nose.
would it kill tamiya to release the standard "safari" nose as well ??

not sure what to do with my old ZG kit now...sell it and buy a street custom or continue on with it.
foenetik
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2015 - 09:16 AM UTC
shes finally done! i just got my instructions to wrote the review/build feature so im going to save most of the reveal for that im pretty happy with it. the body was definitely the most challenging part for me. pics to come soon! thanks everyone for following!
Hwa-Rang
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2015 - 03:08 PM UTC
Looking forward to seeing images of the finished model.
foenetik
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Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2015 - 03:18 PM UTC

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Looking forward to seeing images of the finished model.



Thanks! Ive definitely learned a lot. Like clear coating something this big with an airbrush is definitely a skill i need to work on. Honestly the body took almost 3 months between mistakes and trying to make it look good haha. Oh well, thats how you improve i suppose. Im going to do s photoshoot this weekend with my slr.
Kevlar06
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Washington, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 - 08:48 AM UTC
Tony,
Cant wait to see the finished product! Congratulations on completing a project this big. I never really feel a project is done until it's been on the shelf for a month or two, I always end up "tweaking" things a bit-- that's a bad habit to get into because it keeps you from fully moving onto the next project we always should remember modeling isn't really about perfection, its about satisfaction!. VR Russ
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